I interview Jim Nichols, artist, researcher about the Magicians of NASA, Project Paperclip, the beginnings of NASA, the real mission of the organization and the black magicians who work behind the scenes orchestrating the front org that is the NASA we know today.

Somewhere back in time this organization had a lofty mandate to take us back into space.  Through the need for secrecy it has become a fragmented ghost of the real intentions behind it.  We delve into the hows and whys that NASA has settled for so little so late in light of the advances in the secret space program.

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